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[nycphp-talk] CakePHP bakeoff (Was: CakePHP: what do you think?)

Kenneth Downs ken at secdat.com
Mon Jul 31 12:32:21 EDT 2006


Mark Withington wrote:

>If anyone if planning to be in Boston the evening of Thursday, October 5th
>06 (yah, I know it's a long shot) we're going to do a PHP framework bake off
>with Cake (and one of the core devs), Zend, Horde, etc.
>  
>
This might be fun.  I've got relatives in New Bedford and that's my 
birthday, so perhaps the wife and I can make a weekend of it.

But I have an ulterior motive.  I would like to sit in back and use my 
own framework to develop the same app that the "bake off" is cooking, 
then compare.  Hopefully I could pick up a few things from Cake and 
perhaps they'd pick up a few from me, no?

>More info here:
>http://www.bostonphp.org/component/option,com_gigcal/task,details/gigcal_gig
>s_id,20/
>
>Everyone is welcome.
>
>Cheers,
>
>Mark
>
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>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Baer, Jon [mailto:talk-bounces at lists.nyphp.org] On 
>>Behalf Of Baer, Jon
>>Sent: Friday, July 28, 2006 4:15 PM
>>To: NYPHP Talk
>>Subject: RE: [nycphp-talk] CakePHP: what do you think?
>>
>>
>>Using it alot .. im using it after spending a good 6 months 
>>w/ Ruby on Rails though so my opinion might be one sided, 
>>overall it gives a good feeling of knowing that when 
>>something break you know *exactly* where to look .. which 
>>probably leads to this "agile" thing :-)
>>
>>The best thing to probably look @ if you decide to pick it up 
>>is the Cajax helper by rossoft (he writes alot of nice Cake 
>>plugins - http://rossoft.wordpress.com) which is like RJS in 
>>Rails and lets you do that nice Ajaxy stuff w/ 
>>Prototype/Scriptaculous libraries.  
>>
>>What probably amazes me the most about it is how they 
>>seemlessly made it work w/ PHP4 and still use much of the OO hooks. 
>>
>>I like both RoR and Cake but when it comes to deployment PHP 
>>wins out in the support area, I still dont think they have 
>>figured out the best solution in Rails and the fact that the 
>>Bake command does alot more work make it nicer to work with.
>>
>>Id be more interested in hearing what Mitch or the Joomla 
>>folks think about them (I missed the meeting) but definatley 
>>would have been a question I would have asked ... picking 
>>frameworks vs. rolling your own ...
>>
>>- Jon
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: talk-bounces at lists.nyphp.org on behalf of David Mintz
>>Sent: Fri 7/28/2006 3:28 PM
>>To: talk at lists.nyphp.org
>>Subject: [nycphp-talk] CakePHP: what do you think?
>> 
>>
>>I know it's come up briefly on the list in the past, but imho 
>>it's time once again to ask if people are using cakePHP 
>>(http://cakephp.org/) and if so, what do you think?
>>
>>I think 
>>it's extremely promising, but I also think it has a bit of a 
>>initial learning curve, at least for mere mortals, that seems 
>>to belie the name.
>>
>>Somebody oughta give an NYPHP presentation about it (said he, 
>>as he ducked under the desk).
>>
>>---
>>David Mintz
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